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All one has to do is go to http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism to see that the topic title is true.
It is one religion bashing after another. Why is it so cool these days to be an atheist on the internet?
If you think that everything in the universe just happened by accident, you shouldn't think your opinion is more valid than someone who thinks that something outside of our universe had a part in its creation.
Nobody knows for sure why we exist. It's a question that's been asked as long as man could think. It is a question that is unanswerable.
I agree that people who say "this is the only way it happened" are crazy but the majority of people accept they don't know just like I'm sure the majority of atheists don't go to reddit to crucify believers.
Why not throw away the negativity, let bygones be bygones, and be a positive influence on life, the universe, and everything?
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 02:37 PM
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The thing about your post Rusty.. it's exactly what is wrong with all religions and aetheism. I sense a lot of judgement coming from within you.
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 04:36 PM
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Rusty Shackleford, on 09 January 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:
Why not throw away the negativity, let bygones be bygones, and be a positive influence on life, the universe, and everything?
All people in the world should practice this, regardless of which religion (or lack thereof) they belong to.
-- Acharya
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 05:45 PM
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Just because one group of people on the internet are bashing one religion because they are Atheist doesn't mean everyone does. I feel everyone can belive whatever they want to, it's not fair to lump a group of people together just because of one small group. 
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 07:21 PM
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I could see where atheism could fuel a healthy level of skepticism and cynicism, but negativity is a bit of a stretch. Humanists have tended to be some of the most caring people I have known. I think this rash branding of an entire school of thought is a bit out of line, and using a Reddit thread as your only evidence makes for a pretty poor argument on your part.
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 08:37 PM
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I don't think r/atheism is a very good example. I might be wrong, but I get the feeling that most of the people posting there are young folks from religious backgrounds who are new to atheism, so they understandably feel persecuted. The worst I've ever been treated was by supposed Christians. I think the phenomenon you are documenting is simply a human one, rather than something that can be attributed to any particular group.
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 09:35 PM
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I feel that the very nature of atheism helps proliferate negative values. I say this as a spiritual person.
By their very nature the atheist rejects all spiritualistic values. This instantly does actually mean that they must be attracted to or believe in materialistic values because we exist within nature here.
Many atheists want it both ways and they say to me: "Atheism is simply a lack of belief in God or god. Nothing more. Period." however they cannot just exist as a void. There are no voids in nature, except from unknowable black holes or quantum experiments.
So naturally the atheist adheres to materialistic values where the spiritual ones fail to exist. These values can hurt the spiritual person. Likewise they can help a similar atheistic person.
It really depends on where you are viewing it from. I percieve it as negative because I am spiritual and believe that religion is not only good but the only good aside from a lovely family. Some atheists are moderate and think religion is not bad or good thing, and that's fine. Others think that religion is the only thing wrong on the earth which is of course partly true when you consider all the fanatics out there.
The thing is, an atheistic person does not ASPIRE towards religion or spirituality and no one can make them turn that way. So they have a right to live in peace and happiness. At the same time I would argue that they naturally exude a negative presence to any spiritual person who does not know how to deal with it because they are naturally opposed to spirituality, thus it naturally harms the development of the spiritual person due to the Law of Affinities. If we want to develop well as a spiritual person it is helpful to become close with spiritual people.
All this being said I hope I did not offend any atheists. I've met many friendly atheists who keep moderate views on life and that is welcomed warmly. Much of the time their presence is more positive then a fanatical Christian.
By their very nature the atheist rejects all spiritualistic values. This instantly does actually mean that they must be attracted to or believe in materialistic values because we exist within nature here.
Many atheists want it both ways and they say to me: "Atheism is simply a lack of belief in God or god. Nothing more. Period." however they cannot just exist as a void. There are no voids in nature, except from unknowable black holes or quantum experiments.
So naturally the atheist adheres to materialistic values where the spiritual ones fail to exist. These values can hurt the spiritual person. Likewise they can help a similar atheistic person.
It really depends on where you are viewing it from. I percieve it as negative because I am spiritual and believe that religion is not only good but the only good aside from a lovely family. Some atheists are moderate and think religion is not bad or good thing, and that's fine. Others think that religion is the only thing wrong on the earth which is of course partly true when you consider all the fanatics out there.
The thing is, an atheistic person does not ASPIRE towards religion or spirituality and no one can make them turn that way. So they have a right to live in peace and happiness. At the same time I would argue that they naturally exude a negative presence to any spiritual person who does not know how to deal with it because they are naturally opposed to spirituality, thus it naturally harms the development of the spiritual person due to the Law of Affinities. If we want to develop well as a spiritual person it is helpful to become close with spiritual people.
All this being said I hope I did not offend any atheists. I've met many friendly atheists who keep moderate views on life and that is welcomed warmly. Much of the time their presence is more positive then a fanatical Christian.
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven.
The poor in spirit, or indigent of spirit, are actually those who recognize their own nothingness, shame and inner misery. This kind of being unquestionably receives Enlightenment.
The poor in spirit, or indigent of spirit, are actually those who recognize their own nothingness, shame and inner misery. This kind of being unquestionably receives Enlightenment.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 04:51 PM
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Asking "Does atheism fuel negativity?" is as fair as saying "Does Christianity breed hatred?". Just because some of the more outspoken atheist are negative doesn't mean everyone is. Just because some Christians firebomb abortion clinics doesn't mean they are the majority.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 09:00 PM
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I dont think it fuels negativity. Religion does seem to embody a moral sense into people but I believe that athiests and non believers can be just as moral as those who believe in god.
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Posted 10 January 2012 - 09:08 PM
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I don't think it does at all. Using reddit to "prove" your point doesn't really help either.
r/atheist is a place for like minded people to talk among themselves, they in no way should water down their own ideals just because someone might get their feeling hurt or be turned off in some way.
I would say that most the people that post there would treat people of many backgrounds and ideals the same if they met them in person. I know I do.
r/atheist is a place for like minded people to talk among themselves, they in no way should water down their own ideals just because someone might get their feeling hurt or be turned off in some way.
I would say that most the people that post there would treat people of many backgrounds and ideals the same if they met them in person. I know I do.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 02:57 AM
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Aspirant, on 09 January 2012 - 09:35 PM, said:
I feel that the very nature of atheism helps proliferate negative values. I say this as a spiritual person.
By their very nature the atheist rejects all spiritualistic values. This instantly does actually mean that they must be attracted to or believe in materialistic values because we exist within nature here.
Many atheists want it both ways and they say to me: "Atheism is simply a lack of belief in God or god. Nothing more. Period." however they cannot just exist as a void. There are no voids in nature, except from unknowable black holes or quantum experiments.
So naturally the atheist adheres to materialistic values where the spiritual ones fail to exist. These values can hurt the spiritual person. Likewise they can help a similar atheistic person.
It really depends on where you are viewing it from. I percieve it as negative because I am spiritual and believe that religion is not only good but the only good aside from a lovely family. Some atheists are moderate and think religion is not bad or good thing, and that's fine. Others think that religion is the only thing wrong on the earth which is of course partly true when you consider all the fanatics out there.
The thing is, an atheistic person does not ASPIRE towards religion or spirituality and no one can make them turn that way. So they have a right to live in peace and happiness. At the same time I would argue that they naturally exude a negative presence to any spiritual person who does not know how to deal with it because they are naturally opposed to spirituality, thus it naturally harms the development of the spiritual person due to the Law of Affinities. If we want to develop well as a spiritual person it is helpful to become close with spiritual people.
All this being said I hope I did not offend any atheists. I've met many friendly atheists who keep moderate views on life and that is welcomed warmly. Much of the time their presence is more positive then a fanatical Christian.
By their very nature the atheist rejects all spiritualistic values. This instantly does actually mean that they must be attracted to or believe in materialistic values because we exist within nature here.
Many atheists want it both ways and they say to me: "Atheism is simply a lack of belief in God or god. Nothing more. Period." however they cannot just exist as a void. There are no voids in nature, except from unknowable black holes or quantum experiments.
So naturally the atheist adheres to materialistic values where the spiritual ones fail to exist. These values can hurt the spiritual person. Likewise they can help a similar atheistic person.
It really depends on where you are viewing it from. I percieve it as negative because I am spiritual and believe that religion is not only good but the only good aside from a lovely family. Some atheists are moderate and think religion is not bad or good thing, and that's fine. Others think that religion is the only thing wrong on the earth which is of course partly true when you consider all the fanatics out there.
The thing is, an atheistic person does not ASPIRE towards religion or spirituality and no one can make them turn that way. So they have a right to live in peace and happiness. At the same time I would argue that they naturally exude a negative presence to any spiritual person who does not know how to deal with it because they are naturally opposed to spirituality, thus it naturally harms the development of the spiritual person due to the Law of Affinities. If we want to develop well as a spiritual person it is helpful to become close with spiritual people.
All this being said I hope I did not offend any atheists. I've met many friendly atheists who keep moderate views on life and that is welcomed warmly. Much of the time their presence is more positive then a fanatical Christian.
I don't see your point here. It sounds to me that you understand that judging the whe based on a minority population is bad. In turn the majority of this post seems to be judging atheism based on the. Skiers held by a small portion of them.
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Posted 11 January 2012 - 06:48 AM
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Forcing your beliefs on anyone is negativity regardless of your religion or lack there of. Be kind to one another, that's the true "religion". Wars and land have caused more wars in this world than any other reasons. Petty if you ask me. If i believe in God A and you believe in God B then so be it, why does my belief bother you and vice versa. It boggles my mind why people can't live in peace with their neighbors, when we look back at ourselves in the distant future we'll be laughed at by future generations for thinking the way we do today.
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